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making vise clamps on the milling machine
by Doc Workingday on March 4, 2008
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Intro: Making vise clamps on the milling machine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
step 1: The design . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
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step 2: Rough cut the angle iron . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
step 3: Clean up the long edges . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
step 4: Cleaning up the foot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
step 5: All the facing is done . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
step 6: Slotting setup . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
step 7: Locate the foot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
step 8: Pre-drill the slot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
step 9: Finish the slot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
step 10: Cut the threaded rod . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
step 11: Done! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
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Intro: Making vise clamps on the milling machine
This is a build log of making a simple clamp for holding a milling vise on a milling table. I'm a novice machinist, so there might be some mistakes or errors here and there.
The mill is an X2 "mini mill", manufactured by Sieg and imported and sold in the US by Harbor Freight , Grizzly , etc.
The milling vise is a small screwless toolmaker's vise with clamping slots, sold by Little Machine Shop , Shars.com , etc.
Image Notes
1. It's so cute and *little*!
step 1: The design
The bottom surface of the vise's clamping slot is about 0.595 inch above the table, and the top surface of the clamping slot is about 0.300 inch above the bottom surface.
I'm making the clamps from some scrap angle iron. The stock is 0.25 inch thick. Each side is about 2 inches long (from the outside corner of the angle to the end of the
"leg").
Additional stuff that's needed that I'm not making is a T-nut, a flange nut, and about 2 inches of 3/8-16 threaded rod.
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angle-iron-clamp.SLDPRT (171 KB)
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step 2: Rough cut the angle iron
I put an abrasive cut-off wheel on my wood-cutting compound miter saw and cut the angle iron on that. It cut fine, but it got hot enough to melt the plastic part of the saw's
table.... That made me feel kind of stupid, I hope no one notices.
Anyway, I cut about a 1 inch wide piece off the length of angle iron. The exact size is not very important.
Then I cut off part of one "leg" of the piece, this will be the foot of the clamp later (where it stands on the mill's table). I learned my lesson about the plastic-tabled saw and
made this cut with a hacksaw.
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1. 1 inch wide or there about. The cut edges are very rough. 1. A sharp blade helps. I left enough metal on the workpiece to clean up the cut on
the mill later.
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1. Almost there! Buy a band saw! 1. I filed off the burr to make it easier to hold in the milling vise later.
2. Throw away the dull blade.
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step 3: Clean up the long edges
I set up the angle iron in the milling vise and milled the long cut edges nice & flat (& somewhat to size, though this dimension is not terribly important).
The pictures show the setup for milling the two long sides. The rounded end of the angle-iron fits into the horizontal V-groove in the movable jaw of the vise. The edge
that I'm milling is sticking out 1/4 inch or so past the vise jaws. This setup was plenty secure.
I eyeballed the workpiece to find the part that was sticking out the most, and gently touched off the cutter at that point. Then I started doing cutting passes in the Y
direction, front to back, so each pass was done in conventional milling mode (I'm staying away from climb milling for now). Each pass took off about 0.010 inches of
material, on whatever parts of the workpiece were sticking out. Eventually it cut along the whole face of the workpiece, and then I did a 0.005 inch finishing cut and called
it done.
I used a 3/4 inch 4-flute milling cutter spinning at something like 800 rpm. Feedrate was probably about 5 or 7 ipm. Depth of cut (of each cut) was about 0.010 inch. I
occasionally squirted WD-40 on the cutter and workpiece while cutting.
To mill the other long side I flipped the workpiece upside down (as shown in the second picture). The location of the V-groove in the vise jaw and the length of the foot
(the short leg of the angle iron) conspire to make this possible. If the dimensions hadn't worked out I could have kept the workpiece in the "foot-up" orientation and slid the
workpiece to the other side of the jaws.
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1. The face that's sticking out is rough-cut and needs to be cleaned up and 1. The face after milling.
squared.
2. The rounded front of the angle iron fits securely in the horizonal V in the
movable face of the jaw.
3. The old clamp, clearly inferior to the one I'm making...
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step 4: Cleaning up the foot
Next I did the "foot" of the clamp, the part that rests on the milling table. This operation cleaned up the hacksaw job & established the height of the clamp. This is probably
the most important dimension, but even here there's room for some slop.
I clamped the "long leg" of the workpiece in the vise, being careful to clamp on the straight part of the angle iron, not up near the corner where the thickness changes. I
positioned the clamp near the center of the vice to keep the clamping force balanced and avoid twisting the movable jaw.
The desired length of the foot (per the drawing) is 0.875 inch. I knew I cut the foot longer than that with the hacksaw, so there is some spare stock at the end of the foot to
work with.
First I squared the bottom of the foot by skimming it with the cutter, just like I squared the long sides in step 3 (except along X in stead of along Y). I cut from the left of the
workpiece to the right, to stay with conventional milling.
Once it was flat along the whole bottom of the foot I measured the foot height with calipers (I wiped the reference surfaces with a rag so the swarf wouldnt throw off the
reading). This measurement told me how much material I had to remove. I took it off in 0.010 inch cuts until I got within about 0.020, then I measured again and took
shallow cuts until I got within 0.005 inch, then I called it good.
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1. the right side is not getting cut yet, need to take another 0.005 inch or so off 1. Measuring the current height of the foot: 0.924 inch, need to remove 0.049 inch
more.
step 5: All the facing is done
Here it is with all three faces in order and all the edges of those faces filed smooth.
Now it's all over but the slotting.
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step 6: Slotting setup
For the slotting, I set it up like this.
It's nice to have the workpiece roughly centered in the jaws, because it gives even clamping pressure, not so much twisting force on the movable jaw.
I want the slot in the middle of the clamp, so I measured the final, actual width of the clamp, located the edge, and positioned the spindle at the X axis center of the clamp.
Lock the X gibs here, we'll just be moving in Y and Z for a while.
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1. 1.214, that's about 1.000 right? 1. Locating the edge of the clamp.
2. Again the round front of the long leg is in the horizontal V-groove of the movable
jaw.
step 7: Locate the foot
Touch off against the "inside" of the foot. Remember to compensate for the radius of the edge finder.
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1. Touch off against the "inside" of the foot.
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step 8: Pre-drill the slot
Drill bits are easier to sharpen than milling cutters, so I drilled holes to hog out most of the metal for the slot. I started with a smallish bit (I think around 1/4 inch) for a pilot
hole, then opened it up to 3/8 inch. I know the drawing shows a 0.500 inch slot, but 3/8 inch plus a little is fine.
When I was done there were three 3/8 inch holes through the middle of the clamp, with their sides just touching.
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1. Start with a 1/4 inch bit. 1. Then open it up to 3/8 inch.
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1. *nom* *nom* ... then one more *nom*
step 9: Finish the slot
Next I used a 3/8 inch milling cutter to turn the row of holes into an actual slot. With the spindle running, I lowered the (center-cutting) cutter down into the existing hole at
one end of the slot, then moved it to the hole at the other end. I went back and forth in the slot, going down about 0.050 inch or so for each pass, until I was all the way
through.
Then I widened the slot by about 0.050 or so by moving the milling cutter in a sort of spiral, cutting the full wall of the slot with a depth of cut of about 0.010 inch. I cut the
spiral clockwise, to ensure that I was always conventional milling.
(Note: For the pics in this step I'm showing a clamp where I tried a shorter slot with just two holes pre-drilled. It's working fine, though I think I prefer the longer slot.)
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1. All three of these round things are 3/8 inch in diameter, the camera lies. 1. And there's the slot!
step 10: Cut the threaded rod
I bought some 3/8"-16 tpi threaded rod from ye olde hardware store. It was cheap and it came with three pies.
I cut it to length with the hacksaw and cleaned up the cut edges with a file.
Image Notes
1. About.... *yay* long.
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1. I used some wood to protect the threads from the vise jaws.
step 11: Done!
It looks good!
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1. Bought these from LMS.
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Comments
9 comments Add Comment
Mar 8, 2009. 3:00 AM REPLY
BoiseTyler says:
Hey, would you mind if I added your project to my site - ProjectsInMetal.com ?
I'm always looking for fun projects to add to the site and I think my readers would get a kick out of yours. I'm especially short on simple milling projects for the
beginner, so this one would be perfect. You can let me know by clicking on my name here and sending me a private message, or by visiting my site and
filling out the contact form.
Thanks in advance!
Mar 8, 2009. 7:42 AM REPLY
Doc Workingday says:
Of course, I'd be happy to have this on ProjectsInMetal. I've been checking it out, you've got some cool stuff on there :-)
Dec 27, 2008. 10:35 PM REPLY
Koa is A OK says:
Daddy like! ima make some tomorrow, i HATE the ones on my Sherline.....stupid bits o metal thanks so much for a simple and nice idea
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Dec 5, 2008. 7:33 AM REPLY
FleaCircusDirector says:
Note: A end mill won't cut a slot exactly to size so you need to use a smaller one and machine each size in turn, just as the Doc has done here. A slot drill
will cut to size and the slot could be cut in one pass.
Oct 7, 2008. 2:53 PM REPLY
Hands Without Shadows says:
I like it, but I hate having to tighten the same nuts frequently. I would change those nuts out for lift and set levers but thats another project in itself.
Oct 7, 2008. 7:55 AM REPLY
CameronSS says:
Which came first, the milling machine or the milling machine vise?
Oct 7, 2008. 2:51 PM REPLY
Hands Without Shadows says:
The milling machine came first. Its easy enough to mill just by clamping parts to the table, its just a pain to realign everytime you move the piece.
Oct 7, 2008. 8:35 AM REPLY
Doc Workingday says:
First came the charcoal foundry ;-)
Build your own metal working shop from scrap, by David Gingery
Oct 7, 2008. 6:27 AM REPLY
ncorison says:
Nice work, Doc!
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